{"id":6474,"date":"2024-11-08T17:20:27","date_gmt":"2024-11-09T01:20:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/?p=6474"},"modified":"2024-11-08T17:20:27","modified_gmt":"2024-11-09T01:20:27","slug":"maybe-not-a-pogrom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/?p=6474","title":{"rendered":"Maybe Not a Pogrom?"},"content":{"rendered":"

This<\/a> is getting circulated amongst pro-Israel social media circles as a modern-day pogrom, an example of why Jews need a state of their own (and by implication why any criticism of anything Israel does is unacceptable).<\/p>\n

But read the whole article, and you find this passage:<\/p>\n

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It was unclear what set off Thursday\u2019s violence or how long after the game it began. Some Amsterdam locals said the Israeli fans had spent the previous two days instigating.<\/p>\n

Two videos shot Wednesday showed Israeli fans climbing walls to pull Palestinian flags down from second-story windows; in one of the clips, scores of Israelis gathered below cheered as the flag was burned on the street. Maccabi hooligans also sang an anti-Arab chant Thursday as they entered the stadium.<\/p>\n

Other footage seemed to show Israelis engaging in violence themselves. One dashboard camera clip posted Wednesday night by a Dutch taxi driver appeared to show a Maccabi fan smashing a taxi with an iron chain. Another video \u2014 it was unclear whether it was shot Wednesday or Thursday \u2014 appeared to show about 50 Israeli fans doing the chasing.<\/p>\n

There was also disagreement online about what was happening in some of the videos. One was widely shared on Jewish social media accounts as evidence of a mob attack against Israelis, but the woman who recorded the video said it showed Maccabi supporters ganging up on a Dutch man.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And if anyone tries to accuse me of antisemitism or justifying violence against Jews by inventing some fictitious context here, I will just note that the article I have cited is in the Forward<\/cite>, a Jewish newspaper.<\/p>\n

It may well just be that “brawl between rival gangs of soccer hooligans” is a far more accurate summary of what happened here than “pogrom.”<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

This is getting circulated amongst pro-Israel social media circles as a modern-day pogrom, an example of why Jews need a state of their own (and by implication why any criticism of anything Israel does is unacceptable). But read the whole article, and you find this passage: It was unclear what set off Thursday\u2019s violence or […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6474","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6474","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6474"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6474\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6475,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6474\/revisions\/6475"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6474"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6474"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blackcap.name\/blog\/new\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6474"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}